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FFRF Sucks v1 by genkistamps FFRF Sucks v1 by genkistamps
(WARNING: TL;DR ahead. I'm in a ranty mood. As usual.)

I will make no bones about it; I think the Freedom from Religion Foundation is the biggest group of hypocrites on the planet next to the Westboro Baptist Church. And normally I don't use the word hypocrite to describe anyone because it's a totally dead word but here it applies.

They're in court suing over religious references every day of the week than ends in Y and for what? To protect freedom of speech? Maybe you didn't notice, numbnuts, but by telling people that they can't say something IS AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Read the Constitution, dolts. You sure enjoy twisting the First Amendment to fit your needs and use it to oppress everyone else.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So there you go. Feel free to not believe or stay home and sleep in on Sundays. You can't tell us what we can and cannot believe in or what we can and cannot do with regards to our beliefs. I'll wear a damn cross to my job or classes if I want to, and you can't stop me.

No, I'm not defending rabid Christians, they make me look bad. Do I think the "fundies" need to tone down their bigotry? Yes and no. I don't like what they have to say, but the Constitution says they can say it, and it also says that I can say I don't like it. We all win.
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MizuMegamiSama Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
"The fundies they hate" include Muslim gunmen who massacre over cartoons.

I can't count the number of "militant atheists" committing similar crimes. :roll:
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Professional Photographer
You left out any information of substance for use to decide whether or not that group has overstepped, so I had to look into what they're actually doing. 

In state where I live, they're fighting an $18.25 million in tax incentive for a Christian theme park called the Ark Encounter.  The language in the park's job application that every prospective employee "be saved" and the whole thing is designed to convert people.  Now it's freedom of expression to build something like that, but not with millions of dollars of my tax money.

So don't be a "numbnut"
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TheCrossoverer89 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014
As my grandfather once said "there's all kinds of crazies that don't know what the Hell their talking about"
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A-Rolls-Royce Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
FFRF is nothing more than a Liberal Hate Group. They should be taken for what they're worth: nothing.
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Chiminix Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I am reminded of a quote by Reagan: "The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."
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SpetsnazKaz Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
They want to abolish Christmas, the most celebrated and joyous holiday in the world, in America.
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
If you are working for the government and representing it, you do NOT have the right to make religious references while appearing in that capacity. That is what the FFRF are suing over the majority of the time.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
I'm really just assuming. The artist is a bit generic. You're right that government officials shouldn't represent their religion over their country since, that's their job.
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's usually not a good idea to get upset at people for something you assume they did. It's offensive.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Well, I didn't read the description thoroughly. My bad.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014
I just heard of this group, but they seem to be suing non government institutions. As in, people not representing the government
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
example? 
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Essence-of-Triumph Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very true. Haha.
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Calypsoeclipse Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
There's nothing wrong in being an atheist. They just take out of proportion.
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CyberSakiKun Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
Yep the last days where living in.
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artlover1 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
I love this stamp! :D
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Jakegothicsnake Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
FFRF can go blow itself. :)
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animedisneyluver809 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Amen, my dear friend! :)
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GundamCat Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
EXACTLY! you could not make clearer point then this..i support a persons a right to be religious or not but the FFRF however is trying to take away a person right to chose to be religious, 2 years ago this couple from who knows where came to some small town across the country and they, though they weren't citizens of the town thew a big 'ol fit cuz the town had a cross on its water tower and they went to the FFRF and ofcourse they demanded they take it down, but the towns people, even the ones who weren't christians are still fighting to keep it up.
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Andi1990 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Filmographer
What has the Freedom From Religion Foundation actually done to inhibit freedom of religion?
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A-Rolls-Royce Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
Nothing. It's just a hate group.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
As this piece caused infantile hatetheist minds like johnfaa and marsmar whimper like the ignorant two-year-olds they are, it is a Definite fave.
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genkistamps Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
I keep forgetting about delicious comment drama.

Though I think there's better comment drama on my fandom stamps than my religion stamps. I think that says something.
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whyhavedeactivedpage Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Those references to religion they are suing over, do they happen to be on government buildings?
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elikapeka-coconut Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Thank you for this! Freedom of religion means the right to not practice it AND to practice it!
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PaleoClipperArt Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oi....you sound exactly like the fundies.

look, do not establish a law respecting it: don't make us pray!
prohibiting the free exercise thereof: don't pass a law that states I am not allowed to be such and such religion. in other words, the government cannot endorse, say, islam by making everyone pray to alah, but at the same time they cannot pass a law that says it is illegal to be islamic.

you are fighting something here that has already been shown multiple times to be the way the FFRF fights for the separation of chruch and state. a public school cannot lead prayer, but the students can pray if they want. a governor cannot pray to open a government meeting, but if he wants to pray at home, or at a non-government run meeting, go right again.
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MisterEnigma58 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
(Found this stamp just now - I know this is an old comment, sorry D: )

Ironically enough, the FFRF is a lot like Christian colonialism in Africa. Initially, it worked toward its decent, respectable goal of making people more civilized (in this case, by separation of church and state, which even Jesus supported - see Matthew 22:21) but over time they became more barbaric and now consider the religious no better than primitives. Not to mention they've started choking people on atheism by using the same type of signs they were protesting against in the first place: [link]
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PaleoClipperArt Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
O_o.....
The reason the foundation released that poster was because the capital it was displayed in was illegally displaying religious imagery. According to the US constitution the government, or any governmental building, cannot support religion in any way what so ever. THAT is what that sign was about. Please, do your research before bashing something.

Religion is what they are against, not the people.

Choking people!? :iconfacepalmplz: When I can drive in a 10 mile stretch and see signs for religion left and right, and none at all for what I "believe" in, and you say atheists are choking you!? Oi.... 15% of the population cannot choke the other precent that worships...yet the religious claim they are being oppressed.
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MisterEnigma58 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
I was already aware of this. Two wrongs don't make a right - the government isn't allowed to suppress it any more than it's allowed to support it, and this poster is hypocritical.

That's just it. I'm as much for encouraging people to think for themselves as the next guy, which was the organization's initial message. But now they're saying that all theistic lines of thinking are bad and need to be stamped out, which is crazy.

...Strange. The only place I see those signs where I live is on billboards next to churches, and even then they're not that common and all of the messages adhere to Luke 6:37 - no "our path is the only way, and all the rest of you are evil" or anything like that.
But I concede that the majority of atheists on the Internet constitute a vocal minority of all of them in general, albeit an obnoxious minority that makes a pseudo-religion out of unsound logic. That doesn't stop them from "oppressing" everyone else, though.
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010
We can tell you NOT to impose religion using the government. Here's a small list of things that violate the first amendment
-putting a religious symbol on a government building
-teaching creationism in schools
-using God to symbolize America (even though 15% of americans are atheist)
-teaching religion in schools for the purpose of indoctrination

They have no problem with you going to church or talking about Jesus but it's when religions get the government to show off their religion while denying any other religion or non religion to be heard, that's when the FFRF makes the lawsuits. Try to understand that.
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momopocky Featured By Owner May 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Mmmmm, we still learn about religion in school.
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JohnFaa Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2012  Student Writer
I learned about the light spectrum in physics, yet I am not forced to honour it.
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Marsmar Featured By Owner May 24, 2011
Learning about religion in a history, mythology, or cultural study class is different than teaching religion where it doesn't belong (example: science and math).
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momopocky Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, I see! :P I guess I didn't think about it in that way.
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kyuzoaoi Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2010  Student Artist
No to enforced atheism as to enforced Christianity. This would not make them good agnostics, atheists, and Christians. And this should not apply just to America, too.
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010
They aren't prohibiting freedom of speech. They are prohibiting GOVERNMENT SPONSORED RELIGION. Example: a mayor wishes to begin meetings with a CHRISTIAN prayer or the government allowing a religious symbol (a cross, star of david) to be presented in a government building funded by the tax payers. They're fine with people practicing their religion but they're not fine with the government sponsoring a certain religion.
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Bermuda-Triangulated Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010
I'm an atheist, and I have to say the FFRF really makes me look bad. I also hate how like... a lot of mallgoths say they're atheist, and every single god damn time they see or hear someone talk about god they go APESHIT and say "OH WELL HE DOESN'T EXIST! THERE'S NO SUCH THING!" yet they get pissed when someone else talks about their beliefs.

All I believe in is being a good person, and not being an asshole unless I absolutely have to be. I'll let people do what they want god-wise, but if a Mormon comes to my door and asks me if I want a bible, I'll tell them straight up I'm an atheist. Why waste their time? Generally I'm ok with people talking about religion freely, as long as they don't try to force me to worship anything and we keep the government separate from church like it should be.
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JohnFaa Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010  Student Writer
So, basically you are blaming everyone in that group for the texts I submited to the DA group? Because those are the only hateful things there's in the group
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genkistamps Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2010
There's a DA group? I didn't even know that, I'm used to seeing their billboards that make me go "how are they even allowed to keep that up?"

And yes, I have seen religious ones that made me think the same thing.
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PaleoClipperArt Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, FFRFonDA. founded by myself actually.
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PiGirl13 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
To which billboards are you referring?
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alaska-is-a-husky Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Don't know if this has been pointed out already or not, but "then" should be "than" :B
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genkistamps Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Oh fuck me and those two words.
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JemClock Featured By Owner May 31, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
After coming back from a all out three day party I did face palm my eyes from the long reading. I do concur there are (I'm going to use swear words now) dumb ass people that take things to the extreme no matter what the fuck they are doing, you get my point. I'm Taoist and Wiccan; my childhood years in school I had A LOT of nutty christian friends... Was fun still.

I feel I'm not really hitting the point.
Example: All the major religions are celebrated yet if I called into my boss saying, "TODAY IS A WICCAN HOLIDAY!" I'd be fired. I would love to see the lesser major religions celebrated or shown some attention.
Did any of this make sense???
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spirit-of-the-fire Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Totally agree. Extremist atheists are no different from or better than extremist believers.

And I'm seriously getting tired of everybody always targeting Christianity and leaving everybody else in piece. Leave me the hell alone! I'm not asking you to change your beliefs, so stop bitching at me about mine :fork: Why does it always seem that knocking Christianity is perfectly fine, but if you make fun of any other religion, it's "discrimination."

I really hate people sometimes :furious:
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hlootoo Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Shhh... There, there. Hugs make everything better. (Need one? 'Cause my arms are already wide open!) :)
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spirit-of-the-fire Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014
Haha, well, considering that comment was from 4 years ago, I've kinda moved past it, lol

But hey, I'll always take a hug :hug:
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amymist Featured By Owner May 31, 2010  Student General Artist
If they want to call Monday the second day of the week they can. But if someone wants to call Monday Moinday, they shouldn't get up in arms over it. Hell, they could just call Monday "Lunes"(sp?) and be done with it.
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momopocky Featured By Owner May 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It is "Lunes".
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amymist Featured By Owner May 25, 2011  Student General Artist
Yeah, I've figured that out now.
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