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FFRF Sucks v1 by genkistamps FFRF Sucks v1 by genkistamps
(WARNING: TL;DR ahead. I'm in a ranty mood. As usual.)

I will make no bones about it; I think the Freedom from Religion Foundation is the biggest group of hypocrites on the planet next to the Westboro Baptist Church. And normally I don't use the word hypocrite to describe anyone because it's a totally dead word but here it applies.

They're in court suing over religious references every day of the week than ends in Y and for what? To protect freedom of speech? Maybe you didn't notice, numbnuts, but by telling people that they can't say something IS AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Read the Constitution, dolts. You sure enjoy twisting the First Amendment to fit your needs and use it to oppress everyone else.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So there you go. Feel free to not believe or stay home and sleep in on Sundays. You can't tell us what we can and cannot believe in or what we can and cannot do with regards to our beliefs. I'll wear a damn cross to my job or classes if I want to, and you can't stop me.

No, I'm not defending rabid Christians, they make me look bad. Do I think the "fundies" need to tone down their bigotry? Yes and no. I don't like what they have to say, but the Constitution says they can say it, and it also says that I can say I don't like it. We all win.
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Kote-417 Featured By Owner May 4, 2015  Student General Artist
I'd love to murder fundies...
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2015  Professional Photographer
So clearly that's not the answer
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Kote-417 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Student General Artist
Whatever, I don't care what you think
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animedisneyluver809 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
All I'm saying, is if the forefathers saw our country now, they'd revolt. Obama is treating the declaration like it's toilet paper.
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
How?  Shoot Mel Gibson if i'm wrong, but aren't laws that restrict religious freedoms of minority groups and blatantly ignore the separation of church and state more frequently a problem of the growing fringe-right that's been tearing the Republicans apart?
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animedisneyluver809 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
The separation of church and state was never in the constitution. The phrase was coined in 1947 as "a wall of separartion between church and state". The establishment clause actually something along the lines that there is no state religion. That's the reason the settlers left from England in the first place. And about Obama. He is trying to rid of the second amendment. Even if we do restrict guns, criminals will find other ways to get them (hello, Mexico!).
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PyramidHead90 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
The separation of church and state was a phrase that has existed for a while but first appeared in our own history in 1802 in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson referring to a wall of separation between church and state and cited the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment.  The Establishment Clause clearly states the government cannot pass any laws or make any action that favors a religion, and this is because a large number of American settlers were part of minority religions being persecuted by the Church of England or the papalcy.  That case you cited wasn't the first instance of separation of church and state, it was when it was ruled that the establishment clause applied to state governments, not just the federal government.  Something some states have yet to get through their skulls as we still have a problem with members of government demanding some form of religious litmus test for elected officials.

You are also very, very, VERY wrong about Obama.  The "DEMOCRATS WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS" bullshit has been little more than a conspiracy theory used by the right to rile up stupid voters.  Obama has taken no actions against the second amendment.  Reducing the number of activated guns in the American market is not a violation of the second amendment.  Banning certain models for civilian use isn't a violation of that amendment.  Nor is restricting access to criminals or people who are clearly acting suspicious.
You're also dead wrong about the way criminals get guns.  A majority of the absurdly high number of gun crimes in the U.S were carried out with legally acquired firearms.  The U.S gun market is badly regulated and very bloated, with so many guns in circulation that it's impossible to track them.  It's easier to get a gun than it is to get a car in America, and with the lunatics of the NRA lobbying against measurements like tracking gun purchases, again because of that paranoid delusion of "THE LEFT WANTS MY GUNS!!" there's no solution in sight for America's problem with it's gun market.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
"I'll wear a damn cross to my job or classes if I want to, and you can't stop me."

Actually they can & will. If its outside of the dress code then they may very well stop you from wearing it & would be within their rights to do so.
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
"The fundies they hate" include Muslim gunmen who massacre over cartoons.

I can't count the number of "militant atheists" committing similar crimes. :roll:
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fuckshiru Featured By Owner Edited Mar 7, 2015   Digital Artist
I know this is an old comment, but here:

"I can't count the number of "militant atheists" committing similar crimes. :roll:"- listverse.com/2010/06/05/10-pe…

I'd give it a look.
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
I did. 
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
There is no such thing as a militant atheist. It's literally an oxymoron in our culture.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Edited May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
They are all over the place, they may not be true atheists but do not deny their existence. I don't dent the existence of Christian extremists
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Not sorry, but that's just straight up wrong. There is no such thing as a militant atheist. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god claim, there isn way to do that in a militant fashion.

I think you may be talking about anti-theists, which are people who oppose religion, which is not the same thing as an atheist.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I must say that people like Stalin and Mao count as militant atheists, in fact communism in general could be described as such.

However you do bring up an excellent point
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
"I must say that people like Stalin and Mao count as militant atheists, "

No they count as communists who wanted to replace all extant power structures with the state. That had nothing to do with not believing in a god, it had to do with wanting no opposition to the own power structure. At worst you can call them anti-theists as there actions had nothing to do with a lack of belief in a god, which is as we've already discussed, is what constitutes atheism.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Fair enough
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015
Exactly.  Which is why I can't count them.  I don't have a finger to represent "zero".
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Professional Photographer
You left out any information of substance for use to decide whether or not that group has overstepped, so I had to look into what they're actually doing. 

In state where I live, they're fighting an $18.25 million in tax incentive for a Christian theme park called the Ark Encounter.  The language in the park's job application that every prospective employee "be saved" and the whole thing is designed to convert people.  Now it's freedom of expression to build something like that, but not with millions of dollars of my tax money.

So don't be a "numbnut"
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
The government wastes money anyway, I don't think a Christian theme park is any less foolish
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2015  Professional Photographer
So rather than spend money on schools that teach real history and science, you want millions of my tax dollars to go to an organization dedicated to convincing children that dinosaurs lived alongside humans and that they should give the church more money to avoid being burned for eternity after death.  Just wow. 
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Datum sounds good
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TheCrossoverer89 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014
As my grandfather once said "there's all kinds of crazies that don't know what the Hell their talking about"
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A-Rolls-Royce Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
FFRF is nothing more than a Liberal Hate Group. They should be taken for what they're worth: nothing.
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Chiminix Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I am reminded of a quote by Reagan: "The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen
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Robotic-Mind Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015
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SpetsnazKaz Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
They want to abolish Christmas, the most celebrated and joyous holiday in the world, in America.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
So the Grinch is their leader?
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
If you are working for the government and representing it, you do NOT have the right to make religious references while appearing in that capacity. That is what the FFRF are suing over the majority of the time.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014
I'm really just assuming. The artist is a bit generic. You're right that government officials shouldn't represent their religion over their country since, that's their job.
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's usually not a good idea to get upset at people for something you assume they did. It's offensive.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Well, I didn't read the description thoroughly. My bad.
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Orangecraz Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014
I just heard of this group, but they seem to be suing non government institutions. As in, people not representing the government
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Infinite-Worlds Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
example? 
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Essence-of-Triumph Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very true. Haha.
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Calypsoeclipse Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
There's nothing wrong in being an atheist. They just take out of proportion.
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CyberSakiKun Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
Yep the last days where living in.
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artlover1 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
I love this stamp! :D
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Jakegothicsnake Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
FFRF can go blow itself. :)
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animedisneyluver809 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Amen, my dear friend! :)
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GundamCat Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
EXACTLY! you could not make clearer point then this..i support a persons a right to be religious or not but the FFRF however is trying to take away a person right to chose to be religious, 2 years ago this couple from who knows where came to some small town across the country and they, though they weren't citizens of the town thew a big 'ol fit cuz the town had a cross on its water tower and they went to the FFRF and ofcourse they demanded they take it down, but the towns people, even the ones who weren't christians are still fighting to keep it up.
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Andi1990 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Filmographer
What has the Freedom From Religion Foundation actually done to inhibit freedom of religion?
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A-Rolls-Royce Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
Nothing. It's just a hate group.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
As this piece caused infantile hatetheist minds like johnfaa and marsmar whimper like the ignorant two-year-olds they are, it is a Definite fave.
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genkistamps Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
I keep forgetting about delicious comment drama.

Though I think there's better comment drama on my fandom stamps than my religion stamps. I think that says something.
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whyhavedeactivedpage Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Those references to religion they are suing over, do they happen to be on government buildings?
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elikapeka-coconut Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
Thank you for this! Freedom of religion means the right to not practice it AND to practice it!
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PaleoClipperArt Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oi....you sound exactly like the fundies.

look, do not establish a law respecting it: don't make us pray!
prohibiting the free exercise thereof: don't pass a law that states I am not allowed to be such and such religion. in other words, the government cannot endorse, say, islam by making everyone pray to alah, but at the same time they cannot pass a law that says it is illegal to be islamic.

you are fighting something here that has already been shown multiple times to be the way the FFRF fights for the separation of chruch and state. a public school cannot lead prayer, but the students can pray if they want. a governor cannot pray to open a government meeting, but if he wants to pray at home, or at a non-government run meeting, go right again.
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MisterEnigma58 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
(Found this stamp just now - I know this is an old comment, sorry D: )

Ironically enough, the FFRF is a lot like Christian colonialism in Africa. Initially, it worked toward its decent, respectable goal of making people more civilized (in this case, by separation of church and state, which even Jesus supported - see Matthew 22:21) but over time they became more barbaric and now consider the religious no better than primitives. Not to mention they've started choking people on atheism by using the same type of signs they were protesting against in the first place: [link]
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