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Criticism Isn't Trolling by genkistamps Criticism Isn't Trolling by genkistamps
Why do so many artists assume that, since nobody can find anything wrong with their perfect art, that all criticism is trolling? Sparkledog artists are very guilty of this.

If you don't want criticism; SAY SO. We can't read your fucking mind! By putting it up publicly, we assume you want criticism!

And if you get critiqued, don't pull the troll card. Just say you didn't want it, but thank them for their time, and amend your artist description.
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:iconcomandersprings:
ComanderSprings Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2015
Yesterday I got a really good critique that it's helping me a lot with my current work ^_^
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:iconmariklover35:
MarikLover35 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thats where you're wrong!
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:iconlightanimaux:
LightAnimaux Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Student Digital Artist
This stamp makes me really happy. Also, I wish people would critique or even just flat out criticize my art more. (As long as they're specific) It's helpful.

Another thing that people seem to automatically think is trolling:
When they publicly announce their own opinion or put up a poll about something, and then someone comments with a drastically different view.
smh Other people can have opinions too without being a troll.
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Mina-Foxkey-Star Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree. :nod: Constructive criticism is what helps artists do what they can do to improve. There's a BIG difference between criticism and flat-out insults.
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Haapily-Never-After Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
Very well said.
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:iconhergman:
Hergman Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
the inverse is also true
trolling does not equal criticism
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:iconmariklover35:
MarikLover35 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes it does.
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:iconhergman:
Hergman Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
this....makes absolutely no sense.

saying "yu suck" ten times over is not criticism at any point
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:iconmariklover35:
MarikLover35 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nigger was I talking to your fat ass? Hell no! So fuck off! You cant out troll me!
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:iconhergman:
Hergman Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
whatever
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:iconmariklover35:
MarikLover35 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its true faggot.
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ButterflyReflection Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Troll ! 
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:iconmariklover35:
MarikLover35 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nigger fuck off!
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HTTPStatusCodes Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014
The problem is that too many deviantart users think too much of themselves. There to use to getting high praise and good short comments. Criticism of any kind from someone they don't know (they let there friends off the hook) pointing out there mistakes and it gets them so mad and offended.
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HTTPStatusCodes Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014
One thing I can stand are people who won't accept criticism because we, the reviewer, haven't written or drawn anything, therefore we don't know what we're talking. They won't say that to the people who like there work. But even if we wrote a story or drew a picture, I can grantee you that they would say it's crap no matter what... there's just no winning with these people...
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Etsuko-Hime Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thats true :) but if people want criticism, it usally stand " i would love to get feedbaks in form of cunstructive criticism" im personally get tierd to hear that " you have to work more on you anthomy" wheni do work on it >.< i use 2 anthomy books and at least 1 week on the pose and anthomy alone :)
But even so; Its not trolling, they are trying to help me :)
Lol! I find it hilarious and sad that people using the Norwegian word troll for everything relating to bullying on the net ><
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:iconfrancissplinter:
FrancisSplinter Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
I am not taking a random indecent words as a criticism.
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:iconinsacove:
Insacove Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012   Digital Artist
The funny thing about this is one time I got bashed just for not wanting to take a critique. I also question why people even bother to critique when it's unwanted. I mean really; if there is no critique requested, it's obvious they don't want it. Especially if it's a premium user since they can actually enable critique.
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Scootlink Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
maybe some artists want criticism but ask for it anyway because they assume people will give them criticism??
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:iconinsacove:
Insacove Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2014   Digital Artist
If people want criticism then fine.
But my point is, if someone directly says not to give it to them, then what reason would someone have to give them a critique?
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Cutedemonkitty Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Alrigtht, THATS true
Unless the person keeps saying your art is crap and they wont leave you alone
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ButterflyReflection Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
then that isn't really art critiquing, but straight up insulting and borderline trolling if not already trolling. 
Also some people can't get that someone eases style of art isn't the same as theirs and they don't knwo how to respect someone, so they go and insult someone else. 
which can turn into a form of trolling they aren't careful. 
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Thederpyhobbes29 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Try sending this to Gyrohog on dA.
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KREAORCHEDDAR Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This.
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demonicdrama Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012
Thank you. This needed to be said so badly.
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darko668 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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XxPhoenixSamuraixX Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
O_o o mai gawd...
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midnitestardust Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2011
True :) I totally agree with you!
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:iconrgb64:
RGB64 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2011
Here's how it works:

Trolling=/=Criticism.
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:iconjakeroo123:
jakeroo123 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2011   Writer
This goes for some "critics" as well.
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rosariovampirecool Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Someone was totally taking the piss out of my friends artwork but when I reported, people were like "NUUU ISH JUST CRITICISM!!!" But the bitch was making fun of her because she was Deaf! Is that Critisism!?
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:iconjellote:
Jellote Featured By Owner May 22, 2011   Writer
Tell that to Kphoria...
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:iconunrelatedtalents:
UnrelatedTalents Featured By Owner May 4, 2011  Student General Artist
Oh lawd. I got this from a kid yesterday. I told them very nicely on their comic that they need to work on their style, animal differentiation (I couldn't tell if they were wolves, cats, or mice), and backgrounds. Naturally, they freak out on me and tell me that they don't need to improve. :l
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daniboy95 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011
OMG! FAKE AND GAY!! no im not trolling, it's criticism.... :icontrollfaceplz:
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:icondaniboy95:
daniboy95 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011
BTW!! if people don't understood. THIS IS A JOKE!!!
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NancieAnimeLuvr Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2011  Student Digital Artist
It's how the critique is done, really. XD

Artists are sensitive people, so I think the best way to critique someone is not through harsh, but through constructive and positive criticizing.
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Drag0nChan Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2011
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Sunshinethefox Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist Filmographer
Depends on how people are giving the criticism. :/
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GunSlingerDante Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010
How I love you for this stamp. <3
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:iconcutechong:
cutechong Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010
So calling my drawn pictures stupid is just criticism or is that not criticism? Clear this up for me please.
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:iconfrozen89:
Frozen89 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2010
You know very well the difference between criticism, straigh out opinions, blunt opinions and trolling, so don't bother with that kind of messages.
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0202inferno Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010
...even if its trolls....i wish ppl would critisize my work alittle bit...just for the comments
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:iconthe-goggles:
The-Goggles Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2011  Student General Artist
Yeah, I'm the same way. :L
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Sir-Richy Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2010
I agree so much. But saying something like "It's shit" then "the anatomy's fucked" Is not criticism. I found one of the nicest people in the world (really, they were so polite) on here, they drew a dinosaur, it was their first time drawing one, and someone suddenly wrote that on their work. Fair enough if they told ways to improve etc, but that is one of the rudest comments I've ever seen on her art. She CAN take criticism, I've told her some myself, but there is a line where it crosses into trolling and rudeness
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cartoonime Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know what a sparkledog is , but I agrree with you one the whole trolling/ critism thing . Ppl need to accept that mistakes are part of life , and that you can grow on it
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Emfen Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
If they think my art is shit, then they are allowed to think so as long as they can explain what was making it into shit. I agree with you. :nod:
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DragonKazooie89 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree and I always like getting criticism unless it's just to be rude
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YaoiMeowmaster Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2010
My mom always said dont give criticism unless it's asked. I only really like doing it with my buddies. <3
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Azerarhk Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2010
Omigosh. This is true. Very, very true. I might be a teensy bit harsh but I once critiqued this one girl and she was all defensive about it... whatever. Their problem *shrug* She thought I was being to harsh :XD: but it's just my opinion :paranoid:
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Inveeous Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Criticism is typically something I like to call the PPQ: Praise, Polish and Question (Depending on certain art forms).

Praise: Saying something positive about the piece -- what worked for you, and what is the artist doing well? If you liked something, what craft choice made it work?

Polish: Mentioning one or two things that can be improved upon -- being specific about exactly how those things can be improved. Don't simply mention nit-picky issues.

Question: Ask a provocative question, so you can keep the artist thinking about their piece and what it means to them.

Trolling is, well... being a troll. There is a difference between the two, but sometimes I feel as though it can be hard to recognize for some people. Trolling, as referenced from wikipedia, is: "...someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response."

Critique vs. Being Rude: There's a difference.

People who critique aren't trolls. Without critiques, how can we grow? I understand that some people may not want critiques, I can relate, but some people are just flat-out self conscious. It works both ways, some people are just flat out rude. I believe people who want to critique something need to learn how to critique well (especially online) and people who don't like criticism need to learn how to recognize one.

Long post is long. But I've had this on my mind for some time and after coming across your stamp, I finally wanted to put it out there because I fully agree with it! Nicely done. Thanks!
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